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Episode 57 – The Stars that Guest Starred in the Stars

Christopher Plummer in Star Trek VI

The guys open up with how tired Mack is after coming back from Disneyland.  He describes the new Avengers campus and the shows they have.  CavMan describes buying new patio furniture and the benefits of having a back yard on the east side of the house.  They then segue into the topic of big Hollywood stars that have starred in Sci fi shows/movies for a one off.

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Episode 56 – Strange New Worlds Indeed

Rebecca Romijn, Anson Moun, and Ethan Peck

The guys use this episode to discuss the first two episodes of Star Trek Strange New Worlds.  CavMan loved it.   Mack actually liked it!  They go through the plots and what they liked and didn’t like.   While Mack was appreciative of the change in style he points out some sloppy writing practices and how there still seems to be a lack of scientific principles.   But they both agree that a show can be stronger when it is more episodic.   It greats seminal episodes and it can also move on from bad episodes and not ruins the whole season.

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Episode 55 – Is that Picard?

Picard and Q’s first hug…

The guys open up with DT lamenting about being away from his family and how the school his daughter attends did not stream her school play the way they advertised.   They they begin to dig into Picard Season 2 and things that DT liked about it and things that Mack hated about it.   There really wasn’t much middle ground. 

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Episode 54 -Those Who Need Spinoffs

Captain La Forge

The guys open up with DT discussing going to a country concert for a local boy that grew up in their town trying to break through and giving him a plug.   Then they begin the discussion of characters in Sci-Fi that may deserve a spin-off.  Mack goes against the mold and says that Worf would not need a spin off as it would be boring but Geordie would be great.  Then it ends with them agreeing a Brisco County Junior Movie would be fantastic.  

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Episode 53 – The DS9 Episode Part Deux

A Call to Arms

The guys open up after their short break.  Mack talks about volunteering for the rodeo and helping to raise funds for Mack Jr’s Boy Scout troop.   They then go into more details about DS9 such as A Call to Arms and how the Dominion Arc started in Season two but Season 5 was when we first saw a sequential list of episodes in a single story arc.  Then they discuss how the characters in the show were developed and then just begin to gush about the overall greatness of DS9.  

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Episode 52 – The DS9 Episode

DS9 - The Begotten

The guys take the opportunity to bask in the kind of Star Trek that they both can agree on: Deep Space 9!  They peruse through some of their favorite, mostly focusing on the middle of fifth season where the show really got into a new groove.

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Episode 51 – Is Current Sci-Fi Still Good?

Prometheus… wasn’t that good…

Mack opens up with asking DT how he plans to spend the weekend for Easter.   Then DT brings up the death of Gilbert Gottfried and they discuss their favorite memories of him and how they grew up watching him.   Then DT brings ups the question based off of Mack’s cynicism of new Star Trek: Is new Sci-Fi any good any more?   They talk about the perils of so many writers in the industry and how there is great Sci-Fi now but why we see such hit and miss projects too.

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Special Episode - Mother’s Day

Deanna and Lwaxana

The guys host a special episode where they discuss the role of mothers in Sci-Fi.   It starts off slow and not discussing sci fi but then they get into what Mack would originally be a negative representation of mothers but what turned out to be a SLEW of great moms in Sci-Fi.  And then they discuss Picard.   Happy Mother’s Day!

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Episode 50 – We Reached Fifty!!!

The guys marvel at this special episode and talk about how they got this far.   They discuss their favorite episodes and least favorite episodes and what they wish to see change or come about in the future.   Then Mack’s internet starts giving them fits and that’s when they decide to call it a night.  

Opening Music Credit:

Evening Melodrama by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3722-evening-melodrama

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

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Episode 49 – When Normal Shows Go Ful Sci-Fi

Mork on Happy Days

The guys briefly talk about how they have been watching Moon Knight and what a pleasant surprise it is.   Then they dig in and discuss shows that are not sci-fi but have specific episodes to them that are fully sci-fi in their canon.   This includes examples from Happy Days, Bones, and Punky Brewster.   Then DT tries to give Mack a pep talk on how to enjoy life when The new Star Trek has him down. 

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Episode 48 – I Get No Respect

The guys open up discussing how Mack went to see Hamilton and his realization he may be losing hearing ability in the lower band tones.  Or there was something wrong with the sound system.   DT advised he was never a musical person but loves 1776 which is on brand.  Then they discuss the characters in Sci-Fi who are extremely underappreciated in their shows or stories.  

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Episode 47 – We’re Going to Risa!

Risa - Star Trek

The guys open up with some fun technical difficulties.   Then they get into the subject of Sci-Fi vacations.   They try desperately to find some examples such as Futurama, Battlestar Galactica, Space: Above and Beyond, which is fine.  But they can’t think of anything in Star Wars.   Then McKay talks about how he wants to try his father’s home made pizza recipe and they wax on about different pizza’s they loved and how they inadvertently grew up on Greek Pizza, not Italian.   Then they talk about Star Trek, the formation of Risa, and how it was used in multiple episodes.  

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Episode 46 – The Special Edition

Walkie Talkies replaced the guns here…

The guys discuss the value of the Special Edition.  It’s been used to improve the vision of Directors of previous Sci FI movies, including George Lucas.   But Steven Spielberg also was guilty for it with the 2002 edition of ET.   One added some value.  The other did not.  So what is the line where a special edition is warranted or not?

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Episode 45 - Fleet Week

Stargate’s Earth Fleet

The guys start off with a little bit of banter back and forth like always but then get into what they’ve been meaning to talk about the last two shows now: The different fleets of Sci-Fi.  They go through Shows like Stargate SG-1, Babylon 5, Exosquad, Star Wars and Star Trek.  Not necessarily ranking them but talking about what they liked ab out each one with their strengths and weaknesses.

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Episode 44 – Mack Ruins the Show

It’s the end of everything when Mack is involved

The guys open up about how their high school is being torn down and their thoughts about time.

Then Mack attempts to discuss the Stacey Abrams cameo on Discovery and the value/ramificaitons of having real politicians in Star Trek.  Is it inclusive? Then DT gets pissed at Mack for going this topic because it’s too big to abandon and focus on their original plans.  Then they go onto discuss the Justice League and it’s moments.

 

Then it goes off the rails for a third time.  

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Episode 43 – Off the Rails Part Deux

Back to the Future Part III

The guys begin with talking about how their high school literature assignments helped them in real life which was not at all. Then they talk about how the Lord of the Rings show on Amazon is not that exciting.   This leads to hem ignoring their original topic and talking about reboots or continuations and how the original writer can influence the program and if newer writers only ruin what we love.

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Episode 42 – The Scary Episode

Spider Barclay - TNG: Genesis

The guys open with a back and forth about how Mac thought Varsity Blues was revolutionizing football when he first saw it in High School only to realize his naiveite upon rewatch as an adult and now knowing how football works.  Then they go into today’s subject about different shows in Sci-Fi that were scary or suspenseful but not the basis of the show itself.  A genre bender on the creepy side.   And Mac disqualifies himself by mentioning the X-Files.

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Episode 41 – The Engineers of Sci-Fi

Two of the Best…

McKay has a microphone issue.  They discuss the importance of a 5-10 year plan and DT living alone with his thoughts.   The lack of wisdom in investing in the Franklin Mint collections.  And then they delve into the different engineers of Sci-Fi, their foibles, their strengths, and their differences. 

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Episode 40 – The Second Great Score

The guys open up with the utter BS that Paramount pulled on Star Trek fan accounts today by having accounts suspended on twitter for posting stills from the Strange New Worlds trailer.  They rant on how Paramount is following CBS in how it tried to shy from controversy by ostracizing the fan base rather than having them involved in development like Marvel Studios does.  Then they explore the scores of Star Wars and Star Trek and how they work on their own merits.

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Episode 39 – Picard Season 2.1 – An Apology?

Guinan and Picard - Star Trek: Picard - The Star Gazer

The guys get right into it when they prepped for a different show but both realized they watch Picard Season 2 Episode 1 right before recording and change plans.  They note the differences in Starfleet, how the show gives more fidelity to the Berman era and wonder if the producers were actually listening.  Then McKay in his usual cynical ways questions if having Q in the show cheapens the TNG season finale.

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